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Donald Trump Former U.S. president Donald Trump (pictured) is found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records. In Indy car racing, Josef Newgarden wins the Indianapolis 500. In cricket, the Kolkata Knight Riders defeat Sunrisers Hyderabad to win the Indian Premier League. Gitanas Nausėda is re-elected as president of Lithuania. A landslide in Papua New Guinea's Enga Province leaves thousands of people missing and presumed dead. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Rob Burrow Drew Gordon Lionel Dyck Marian Robinson Robert Pickton Margot Benacerraf Alan Choe Hugues Gall view — page history — related changes — edit

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June 3

Portal:Current events/2024 June 3
June 3, 2024 (2024-06-03) (Monday) Politics and elections 2023–2024 Georgian protests Chairperson of the Parliament of Georgia Shalva Papuashvili signs the foreign agent bill into law amidst mass protests and warnings from Western countries against signing the bill. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty)

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June 2

Portal:Current events/2024 June 2

June 2, 2024 (2024-06-02) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Sudanese civil war Darfur campaign Battle of El Fasher UNICEF reports that more than 270,000 people, including more than 130,000 children, are at risk following fighting at the Golo Reservoir in El Fasher, Sudan. (The Print) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russia–NATO relations, Russia–United States relations Russia accuses NATO and the United States of "provoking a new level of tension" after some allies agreed to let Ukraine's military use Western-supplied weapons to strike targets inside Russia. (BBC News) Syrian civil war Israel's role in the Syrian civil war Syrian state media reports that a number of people have been killed in Israeli airstrikes near Aleppo. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 German floods A firefighter is killed and thousands of people are evacuated after heavy rains cause flooding in southern Germany, particularly in the states of Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria. (Reuters) (DW) International relations International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war, Israel–Maldives relations The Maldives announces a ban on Israeli passport holders from entering the country. (CNN) Law and crime One person is killed and 24 others are injured in an overnight mass shooting in Akron, Ohio, United States. (NPR) Politics and elections 2024 Iranian presidential election Former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announces that he intends to run for President of Iran again following the death of Ebrahim Raisi. Ahmadinejad has been rejected from running in the two previous presidential elections. (ABC News Australia) 2024 Mexican general election Voters in Mexico elect a new president and legislature, eight governors, the mayor of Mexico City, and around 20,000 other positions in federal and local elections. (CNN) Claudia Sheinbaum wins the presidential election, becoming the first female Mexican president. She will begin her term on October 1. (CBC) Science and technology Chinese space program China's Chang'e 6 lunar exploration mission to collect moon rock successfully lands on the far side of the Moon. (Reuters) Sports 2023–24 NHL season In ice hockey, the Edmonton Oilers advance to the Stanley Cup Finals by beating the Dallas Stars by four games to two. (Nhl.com)

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RD: Carl Cain

Article: Carl Cain (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KCRG
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Article updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: David Levy (Israeli politician)

Article: David Levy (Israeli politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Israeli Politician.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose at this time. The article seems well written but theres a lot of unsourced paragraphs in there @Pharaoh of the Wizards:. If they can be cited, i'm happy to change my !vote. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Mexico election

Articles: 2024 Mexican general election (talk · history · tag) and Claudia Sheinbaum (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Claudia Sheinbaum is elected as president of Mexico. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Claudia Sheinbaum is elected as the first female president of Mexico.
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Important election. Media outlets in Mexico are already projecting that Sheinbaum won, but votes are still being counted. Davey2116 (talk) 03:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• The Sheinbaum article is in no fit state to be a bolded article. Three orange tags and five citation needed tags will have to be addressed first. Schwede66 04:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
• Wait Wait until it's been officially projected that she has been elected. Support Also worth mentioning in the blurb that she'll be Mexico's first female president. It appears the election has been called for Sheinbaum per NYT. The general election article looks good in terms of sourcing. Not sure if Sheinbaum's article needs to be a target article as well. I recall nominating Guillermo Lasso's election but the 2021 Ecuadorian general election was suggested as the targeted article. Not sure if things changed then. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

For example

• Wait Absolutely nothing official yet (silence from the INE is odd and the others haven't conceded). Use the time to find a better photo and fix the orange tags (no {{cn}}s left). Moscow Mule (talk) 05:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support the 2024 Mexican general election for notability. Sheinbaum's article needs to be reworked to be bolded. This is the first time a puppet president has been elected since Emilio Portes Gil, and Mexico is descending into a condition of democratic decay, with Sheinbaum herself promising to overhaul the election and legal systems. Her gender is not relevant enough to be described in the blurb beyond the standard reports. She is also the first person of Jewish origin to be elected, the first atheist, and the first person to indirectly earn a Nobel Prize, although these achievements are not highlighted. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
• No opinion as to the article quality, but all the major Anglophone news organizations like AP, Reuters, and NYTimes have called the election for Sheinbaum.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 07:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Is it worth also adding mention of the SHH alliance getting a supermajority if it occurs? A political alliance becoming powerful enough to unilaterally amend a national consitution must surely be big news if it happens. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 08:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: John Burnside

Article: John Burnside (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Drchriswilliams (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Scottish award-winning writer Drchriswilliams (talk) 21:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rob Burrow

Article: Rob Burrow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by AirshipJungleman29 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by AutisticAndrew (talk · give credit) and Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support No problems, well sourced. Black Kite (talk) 17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Fully cited, well written and ready to go for this rugby league great. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 18:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Unreferenced DoB. Schwede66 20:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  And when I tag the date of birth being unreferenced, J Mo 101 keeps reverting that edit. Without an inline citation for it, I won't promote it. Schwede66 21:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Place of birth is also unsourced. --PFHLai (talk) 21:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Ref added. J Mo 101 (talk) 22:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Posted – Schwede66 01:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

2024 Icelandic presidential election

Article: 2024 Icelandic presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Halla Tómasdóttir (pictured) is elected president of Iceland. (Post)
News source(s): RUV
Credits:

• Nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)

BastianMAT (talk)

• Oppose on quality. ITN/R is given, so I support this in principle, but Halla's article is still pretty much a stub, and the election article still lacks both context and aftermath. Once it all is ready, I'm more than happy to support it. CDE34RFV (talk) 09:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Halla's article is extremely short and election article needs more prose. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 16:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality per PrinceofPunjab. One target's a stub and the other is almost bare of prose. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment -- this is not ITNR, no? Not head of the executive. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 07:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose -- since it's not ITNR and the President of Iceland has no actual power, I oppose posting this. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 09:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Battle of El Fasher

Article: Battle of El Fasher (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Clashes in Al-Fashir kill over 100 people and injure more than a hundred, while a hospital is subsequently bombed by the Sudanese Armed Forces in Kutum as a result of the battle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Clashes in Al-Fashir, Sudan, kill over 100 people and injure more than a hundred, while a hospital is subsequently bombed by the Sudanese Armed Forces in Kutum as a result of the battle.
News source(s): (Sudan Tribune) (Dabanga Sudan) (Sudan Tribune) (Channel 4) (BBC)
Credits:

• Nominated by Vamos Palmeiras (talk · give credit)

Article updated

(talk) 02:29, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Added altblurb mentioning the country. Most readers wouldn't know what country this was relevant to if the original blurb were used. Tube·of·Light 05:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Support Event is notable and has enough info and sources. NuestroBrasil (talk) 20:18, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, already covered by ongoing Sudanese civil war and its timeline. Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support, as it seems quite a notable moment in the ongoing civil war as a whole. I'll note, though, that the article I've just cited should be added to the blurb for further clarity, if we do publish it... Oltrepier (talk) 14:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support we posted massacres in Israel before (i think at least) so why not Sudan? Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  You're probably thinking of the October 7 one, which came right before the war (so not yet "covered by ongoing"). InedibleHulk (talk) 16:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  They probably think that one. Also not to forget that we also nominated and posted the Geneina massacre. Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 16:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  If I recall, the deaths in that one were based on more than the say-so of a radio caller, as the Kutum Hospital airstrike (currently) is. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  True. The Geneina massacre was caused by the Battle of Geneina itself and killed between 10 to 20,000 people. Not to forget that the blurb about El Fasher and the full nomination is talking about the ongoing offensive on the city and how it is affecting thousands of people. Furtherly, I think if this nomination does in fact get posted that we should expand the Kutum Hospital airstrike article. But for now let's keep it the way it currently is. Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  The part about the recent offensive talks about how it killed eleven people and wounded 42. I'm not seeing enough updated detail on these thousands of others (or anything at all about 2024 in the lead). Of course, there remain thousands who have been and are affected in myriad ways this whole time (including in El Fasher), but that much remains conveyed by the Ongoing item, I think. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Battle is covered by ongoing, and the sourcing for the hospital airstrike is shaky anyways. The article is also in no shape to post. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Chang'e 6 landing

Article: Chang'e 6 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The CNSA Chang'e 6 sample return mission touches down on the far side of the Moon. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Guardian, Reuters, News, Xinhua
Credits:

• Nominated by Osunpokeh (talk · give credit)
• Created by Scruce (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit), Randy Kryn (talk · give credit) and Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Article mentions landing but needs work. Prior nomination of Chang'e 6 to ITN consensus was to wait until landing. [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 00:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability but article needs some work. Mission profile section is a bit small and needs to be expanded. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 01:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability Obviously, the article needs some work which would help explain this event a bit more. Overall a great event to display on 'In the news'. Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 02:18, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support I was wondering how they knew that the landing was successful and the article explains that the Queqiao-2 relay satellite has been pre-positioned to maintain comms. So, the article is quite informative and and useful. As it's ITN/R, we don't need notability votes. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support though would like to see more expansion of the article to match what we usually see on NASA or ESA missions. There was general consensus when the launch was nominated to wait until it reached the moon (and potentially on a successful return); that's this point. --Masem (t) 14:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

June 1

Portal:Current events/2024 June 1

June 1, 2024 (2024-06-01) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Sudanese civil war Darfur campaign Battle of El Fasher Kutum Hospital airstrike The Sudanese Armed Forces bomb a hospital in Kutum, Sudan, injuring dozens of people. (Al Mayadeen) Around eleven civilians are killed and 42 others are injured in large clashes between the Rapid Support Forces, the Sudanese Armed Forces, and various rebel militia groups in El Fasher, Sudan. (Sudan Tribune) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Russia launches missile and drone strikes across Ukraine, injuring at least four people and damaging critical infrastructure, including energy facilities. Ukraine says that it shot down 35 of 53 missiles and 46 of 47 drones. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents A boat carrying 25 people capsizes in eastern Afghanistan, killing 20 of them. (AP) At least 33 Indian election polling staff die from heatstroke in a heatwave across the country. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Capital punishment in Yemen A court run by the Houthis in Yemen sentences 44 people to death on charges of collaborating with the Saudi coalition. (ABC News) Vallow–Daybell doomsday murders A jury in Idaho, United States, sentences Chad Daybell to death for the murders of his ex-wife and two of his wife's children. (AP) Ticketmaster and parent company Live Nation submit an SEC filing acknowledging a data breach of customer information potentially affecting 560 million users. Banco Santander and cloud provider Snowflake Inc. are also believed to have been affected by the same data breach. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Icelandic presidential election Icelanders vote for the President of Iceland. Incumbent president Guðni Th. Jóhannesson had previously announced that he would not be seeking a third term. (Al Jazeera) Halla Tómasdóttir is elected as the President of Iceland with the plurality of the votes at 34.2%. Her opposition Katrín Jakobsdóttir concedes the election with 25.2%. (DW) 2024 Indian general election The final phase of the general election in India is held, with the ruling National Democratic Alliance projected to win a majority. Results will be announced on June 4. (Reuters) Sports 2023–24 UEFA Champions League In association football, Real Madrid win a record 15th Champions League title after defeating Borussia Dortmund 2–0 in the final at Wembley Stadium in London, England. (CNN) 2023–24 NHL season In ice hockey, the Florida Panthers advance to the Stanley Cup Finals by beating the New York Rangers by four games to two. (Nhl.com)

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RD: Philippe Leroy

Article: Philippe Leroy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rai News (Italian)
Credits:

• Nominated by Robertsky (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

French actor. May require additional references for this go through. – robertsky (talk) 04:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Robertsky I'll try to go through and clean up the page as soon as possible. Oltrepier (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you. – robertsky (talk) 08:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Artur Chilingarov

Article: Artur Chilingarov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Russian polar scientist and member of parliament.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose awards section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

UEFA Champions League

Articles: 2024 UEFA Champions League final (talk · history · tag) and 2024 UEFA Women's Champions League final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Real Madrid win the 2024 UEFA Champions League for the 15th time after defeating Borussia Dortmund in the final (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Real Madrid win the UEFA Champions League, defeating Borussia Dortmund in the final.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In association football, Real Madrid defeat Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA Champions League final (man of the match Dani Carvajal pictured).
Alternative blurb III: ​ In association football, Barcelona win the women's Champions League (player of the match Aitana Bonmatí pictured) and Real Madrid win the men's Champions League.
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kingsif (talk · give credit) and Justificate (talk · give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Heatrave (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment – Added an ALT blurb based on 2023's blurb. SounderBruce 21:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb but I think Madrid extending their record is worth mentioning as well Jbvann05 21:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comments 1. This is ITN/R, 2. Would it be possible to propose a combined altblurb that also mentions that women's Champions League? That final was on 25 May so still within the ITN window (Barcelona beat Lyon). Kingsif (talk) 21:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support once match summary is added Article just needs a match summary and post-match section to be added. I'd support the Women's CL final joining this if a summary were added there as well. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Support altblurb I think it would look better for altblurb 3 if Carvajal was featured instead (more recent event + more famous), but altblurb 3 is good too Sharrdx (talk) 00:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Support Alt3 when ready women's' final looks ready but there is a rather short small summary on Men's final. When a longer summary is added, I will support it. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 01:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Aitana Bonmatí

• Support alt3 (Updated nom re. ITN/R) – there's now a match summary at the Women's final article. There's also this image of Bonmatí there that can be used - probably start by posting one of Carvajal, but it's typical to rotate images after a while and it's a great photo, so can add the Bonmatí one to MP protection. Kingsif (talk) 00:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC) – Marked as ready with the update to the men's final article. Kingsif (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support though I think we need to point out a minor technicality that may need to be discussed later. The UWCL isn't listed on WP:ITN/R so we may need to discuss that for future years in case they stop coinciding to do a dual nom. That being said, I support this nom but I do think ALT3 has a bit too much WP:OLINK and I also think we should only use the official names. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 10:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - article is not MOS:ACCESS compliant at the moment, as it has tables within a table. I'm not sure why this happens every single year...  — Amakuru (talk) 17:29, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• That's no longer an issue on either final article. S.A. Julio (talk) 01:56, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Colonel Dyck

Article: Lionel Dyck (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): iHarare.com
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Rhodesian and Zimbabwean Army soldier and mercenary group leader. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support article looks alright to me. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support posting as Colonel Dyck which has a nice ring to it. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support using the common name. Aside from it being good enough for these past 34 months of his life, rank is among the things we can't take with us. There's an unfilled burial place field in the infobox, but I've never seen that stop anything before. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 20:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not bitter, but this nicknaming business may set a new Slippery Slope Standard. Could be a lot of weird ones slipping through (especially with musicians, criminals and wrestlers) and a lot of extra arguments about which nicknames are the weird ones. Hopefully I'm wrong! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  • The precidence has already been set @InedibleHulk: as Kamala ran under his wrestling name and we ran Barry Chuckle under his stage name. I think as long as the nicknames are cited and they are used to commonly name someone, then I see no reason why we can't. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Boeing Starliner

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Article: Boeing Starliner (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Boeing Starliner launches on June 1st, 2024. (Post)
News source(s): CNBC Washington Post CBC CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by 48JCL (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: New to this process— may be short, but if someone could expand this, that would be great. 48JCL^TALK 16:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Welcome here and thanks! I'm thinking a blurb that mentions it being a spacecraft used to resupply the ISS could be more informative maybe? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Given the delay, wait and see if it's launched tomorrow. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Whelp, launch got delayed again. Natg 19 (talk) 16:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Wtf is happening at Boeing. How can it get this bad? This is like the 11th delay or something, it was originally scheduled for launch in 2017. What is going on PrecariousWorlds (talk) 22:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose as per WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. Since the launch was sadly delayed, on procedural grounds I think this has to be closed at this time. No opposition to it being renominated at a later date when it eventually does get off the ground. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@The C of E added alt version 48JCL^TALK 16:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, according to news reports it looks like they are going to try again in 24 hours or so. So on that basis I would say wait until we know more. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Great, thanks. 48JCL^TALK 17:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Wait and I suggest closing this for now. Starliner has been repeatedly delayed. Let's wait until it actually launches. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment. Sorry for the early ITN, the reason was because I was watching it live and the timer said 4 minutes until launch so I thought it would be appropriate for ITN. 48JCLTALK 19:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

No problem, welcome to ITN! Johndavies837 (talk) 21:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment Tomorrow's launch attempt has been canceled as well. No launch until at least June 5 so there's no point in keeping this open. (Source) Johndavies837 (talk) 21:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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2024 South African general election

Article: 2024 South African general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The African National Congress (ANC) loses their 30-year majority in South Africa's parliamentary election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The African National Congress (ANC) loses their majority for the first time since the end of apartheid in South Africa's parliamentary election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The African National Congress (ANC) wins South Africa's parliamentary election but lose their 30 year majority that they had held since the end of apartheid.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In South Africa's parliamentary election, the African National Congress (ANC) wins a plurality of the vote, but fails to achieve an outright majority for the first time since the end of apartheid.
News source(s): (AP) (BBC)
Credits:

• Nominated by CastleFort1 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: In addition in highlighting the ANC losing its majority, the uMkhonto we Sizwe (MK), led by former president Jacob Zuma, has also seen a rise in the polls. CastleFort1 (talk) 11:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support when ready: Although we're still waiting for the official results to get published, and the article needs to be updated with new information, I think there's no doubt about the ANC's loss of parliamentary majority being by far the biggest takeaway from this election, as well as a turning point in the modern history of South Africa. Oltrepier (talk) 11:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Wait - Until official results and the composition of the National Assembly is finalised. However, last general election, did we wait to post when the president is actually elected by parliament or did we post the NA results? I would be in favour of posting both as this is the most significant election in South Africa since 1994, and basically the only election where one party hasn't been dominant since 1948. This is a big moment in South African history. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment we need to phrase this the way we always phrase election results, to avoid seeming partisan. The blurbs above, which phrase it as The ANC loses... are not accurate - the ANC still won the election, only that they're short of a majority.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

  I concur with this. After the number of seats are released, I will make a second alternate blurb to reflect it. It'll say that the ANC won the most in South Africa's election, but it will mention them losing their majority for the first time since the end of apartheid. CastleFort1 (talk) 12:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

  We could also write that the ANC won the plurality of votes but failed to get a majority. That could make it less ambiguous for readers. Scaramouche33 (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle BUT wait until the result is officially announced. I think the proposed wording is accurate but I do agree with the above that it should be something like ALT2 that I've just added as a possibility. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT2 once results are released, but it should be edited for grammar to "The African National Congress (ANC) wins South Africa's parliamentary election but loses its 30 year majority that it has held since the end of apartheid." PtolemyXV (talk) 17:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality. A significant amount of unsourced statements and indeed a whole paragraph ("Preliminary candidate lists"). Black Kite (talk) 18:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt1, oppose Alt2 Alt1 best captures the significance of this electoral event for me. In principle I strongly oppose saying that a party that gets a plurality of seats "won an election" in ITN for parliamentary elections because it implies to anyone unfamiliar that that party will end up in power even if it isn't actually the case (e.g. Spain and Poland, where the plurality party failed to get into or lost power), although in this case it's moot because the ANC is expected to stay in power albeit while being forced to ally with another party. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support on importance, but wait until results are announced and information in the article is improved. I have proposed Alt3, which addresses the fact ANC wins a plurality, but not a majority. I used outright to indicate/clarify there is still room for them form a ruling coalition, and I see it being used in various sources. NPR, AlJazeera, Bloomberg via YahooNews. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 19:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Support Alt3 but there are some paragraphs ends without any footnotes. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Alt2 now that the results are fully in I feel that this is the best description of the situation. Scu ba (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality still a lot of unsourced statements.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT2, oppose on quality per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• AAIOUIUA An acronym is only useful if used afterward. If we're posting this, post it without the "(ANC)" (or use it afterward). Please and thank you. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

May 31

Portal:Current events/2024 May 31

May 31, 2024 (2024-05-31) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukraine launches missile and drone strikes across Krasnodar Krai, Russia, injuring two people and damaging several oil refineries. (Reuters) Kharkiv strikes At least three people are killed and 16 others are injured when Russian missiles hit civilian infrastructure in Kharkiv. (Reuters) Treatment of prisoners of war in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukraine and Russia announce their first exchange of prisoners of war in nearly four months, with 150 people freed following negotiations mediated by the United Arab Emirates. (Reuters) Red Sea crisis 30 May 2024 Yemen strikes The death toll from yesterday's U.S. Navy and British Navy airstrikes in Yemen increases to 16 with 35 others injured. (AP) The Houthi Supreme Political Council states that it launched an attack on the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, although American officials deny this claim. (The Independent) Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum Seven soldiers are killed and 28 others are injured in an offensive by the Rapid Support Forces near Khartoum, Sudan. (Sudan Tribune) 2024 Mannheim stabbing A man with a knife stabs several people at an anti-Muslim rally in Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, Germany including two policemen, including one in the neck, before being injured by a bullet. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict A medic is killed and another is injured in an Israeli airstrike against an ambulance in Naqoura, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) International relations France–Israel relations France bans Israeli defense firms from exhibiting at the Eurosatory weapons expo convention. (Al Jazeera) China–United States relations At the 2024 Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin meets with Chinese Minister of National Defense Dong Jun, with the two agreeing to resume military-to-military communication between the two countries. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Corruption in Zambia Former First Lady of Zambia Esther Lungu is arrested on fraud charges. (BBC News) Canadian serial killer Robert Pickton dies in prison after being attacked by another inmate earlier this month. (AP) French security services arrest a Chechen teenager suspected of plotting a religious-inspired ambush on a football game during the Summer Olympics. (The Guardian) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war protests Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States Pro-Palestinian protesters occupy parts of the Brooklyn Museum in New York City, New York, U.S. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Marian Robinson

Article: Marian Robinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 22:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support, I don't see any major problems with this article. KConWiki (talk) 22:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks alright to me. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 19:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Alexander Lang

Article: Alexander Lang (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

German actor and director. Needs more work. Natg 19 (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there are four cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Five now. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Six. Schwede66 20:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Robert Pickton

Article: Robert Pickton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Global News AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DERPALERT (talk · give credit) and Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Looks fine. Natg 19 (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support It didn't look fine to me when I checked, but looks fine enough now (for a disgusting story, anyway). InedibleHulk (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support absolutely disgusted by this person but article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  One of my closest friends going back nearly 20 years—a man who has always been among the least judgmental people you could possibly imagine, who strives to see the good in everybody—said at the time of sentencing (ca. 2007) that he was "disgusted" by what Pickton did. That is the only time I can recall him ever using such a strong word to describe his feelings towards anyone. Kurtis ^(talk) 11:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Speaking only for my own usually thick skin and unusually strong stomach, I should maybe be clear that I dropped the D-bomb for more than just Pickton and his multiple unchecked murders most foul. The early life and education here are shit. The drug and sex parties are depraved and harmful as a matter of course. The pig farming methods are casually inhumane. The way the Mounties always seem to shrug off missing and murdered indigenous women (even when they were called worse) is reprehensible. That day parole was even considered makes the whole penal system look broken and that the basic Hammurabic justice devoid in the first place was once again left in the hands of an unelected and unappointed sociopath afforded only the most primitive cleaning supplies is "problematic" at best. There are darker details, still, but they're too much for present company. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support—Well-written, well-sourced, and a dark blight on Canada's recent history that merits being known about. Kurtis ^(talk) 14:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 19:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

May 30

Portal:Current events/2024 May 30

May 30, 2024 (2024-05-30) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, Russia–NATO relations 2024 Kharkiv offensive The United States gives Ukraine permission to strike Russian territory near Kharkiv Oblast with U.S.-supplied weapons, but not with long-range missiles. (Politico) (CNN) Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen says Denmark has approved Ukrainian airstrikes on Russian territory using Danish-supplied F-16 jets. (The Moscow Times) Israel–Hamas war Humanitarian aid during the Israel–Hamas war The Israeli military lifts a ban on the sale of food to the Gaza Strip from Israel and the West Bank. (Reuters) Rafah offensive, Siege of Gaza City, Refugee camp airstrikes in the Israel–Hamas war Israeli airstrikes kill twelve Palestinian civilians in Rafah and one at the al-Shati camp near Gaza City. (Reuters) Red Sea crisis 2024 Sanaa strikes The United States Navy and the Royal Navy strike thirteen Houthi locations across Yemen, damaging underground facilities and vessels, killing at least two people and wounding ten. (NPR) North Korea and weapons of mass destruction North Korea launches a series of short-range ballistic missiles from Pyongyang toward the Sea of Japan. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents A bus falls into a gorge in Jammu division, India, killing 21 people travelling to a pilgrimage site in Reasi district. (ABC News) A person is killed after falling into a running aircraft engine of a departing plane at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment 2020–2024 H5N1 outbreak The third human case of H5N1 bird flu in the United States is found in a dairy worker in Michigan. (NPR) International relations International recognition of the State of Palestine Slovenia's ruling cabinet approves a motion to recognize Palestine as an independent nation and sends the motion to the National Assembly for adoption. (AP) Law and crime Catalan independence movement The Spanish parliament votes to pass a bill granting amnesty to hundreds of Catalan secessionists involved in the Catalan declaration of independence from 2011 to 2017. (Al Jazeera) Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York Former President of the United States Donald Trump is found guilty by a jury on all 34 felony counts relating to falsifying business records, becoming the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime. (CNN) Hong Kong convicts fourteen activists and politicians guilty of subversion under its national security law. (Al Jazeera) The United States Department of Labor files a lawsuit against Hyundai Motors over illegal use of child labor at the company's automobile factory in Montgomery, Alabama, amid a nationwide increase in child labor in the U.S. (Reuters) Three people, including a police officer, are killed in a mass shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S. (WCCO-TV) Footballer Gerard Piqué is placed under official investigation for his alleged involvement in illegal payments in the relocation of the Supercopa de España from Spain to Saudi Arabia. (Reuters) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war protests 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses Police dismantle and remove the student pro-Palestinian encampment at Wayne State University in Detroit, Michigan, U.S. (The Detroit News) (AP) Science and technology OpenAI removes online influence operations based in Russia, China, Iran, and Israel, due to the usage of AI by these operations to generate propaganda and fake content. (NPR)

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RD: Geneviève de Galard

Article: Geneviève de Galard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs a little work. Natg 19 (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there are some cn tags that needs to be resolved. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Drew Gordon

Article: Drew Gordon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

In solid shape. Natg 19 (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Ready article is in a very good shape therefore marking it ready. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Is there a source for the stats tables, please? Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  I've added NBA.com as a source for the North American stats. Is there a source for stats from his playing days in Europe? --PFHLai (talk) 14:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  @PFHLai: basketball-reference.com is a good reference, and has been added. —Bagumba (talk) 19:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Unreferenced DoB. Schwede66 20:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Schwede66: Now sourced. —Bagumba (talk) 22:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

  Posted – Schwede66 01:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Donald Trump found guilty

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Article: Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Donald Trump found guilty in a criminal trial of falsifying business records with the intent to conceal or commit another crime in relation to payments to the porn star Stormy Daniels. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former president of the United States Donald Trump (pictured) is found guilty of 34 felony charges in New York, USA.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former president of the United States Donald Trump (pictured) is found guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by BilledMammal (talk · give credit)

Article updated

BilledMammal (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support This is most certainly in the news. This is the first time a former U.S President has been found guilty of felony charges and is a very notable event. Lukt64 (talk) 21:20, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Ach, beat me to it. I was going to boast about being the first vote to my grandkids. Bremps... 21:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

) Lukt64 (talk) 21:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support First criminal conviction of a U.S. President. Article quality is good. Bremps... 21:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support Obvious notability. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support History making event. Prefer alt blurb.yorkshiresky (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support to quote the great contemporary philosopher Billie E.P.B. O'Connell, duh. Sceptre (talk) 21:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2 per (gestures vaguely at everything) —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 21:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2 per pythoncoder. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support alt2 This is very important news. I believe ITN reports when a current/former head of state/government of a nation is convicted of a crime. The alt2 blurb also sounds the most "ITN" out of all of the blurbs.

Djprasadian (talk) 21:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Posted - Fuzheado | Talk 21:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  Posted in 21 minutes. Is that a record? Lukt64 (talk) 21:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  What about Queen Elizabeth's death? Kevinishere15 (talk) 21:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  That was 6 minutes. Nevermind. Lukt64 (talk) 21:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support notability per Bremps, maybe wait a little for article to settle down a bit? Might be worth it to wait for whatever reactions come from Trump and other involved parties before posting. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

We already have a separate article for that: Reactions to the prosecution of Donald Trump in New York. Partofthemachine (talk) 21:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Concur with this, article will almost certainly have some back-and-forths going on. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support even though I think it shouldn't have been posted this quickly. While I don't think convictions of heads of state/government should be ITNR, I do think they're generally pretty newsworthy. (And didn't we have another one earlier this year?) GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Stormy times for The Donald. Have just the cortege live on TV. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  you missed a good opportunity to blue link Stormy to Stormy Daniels Lukt64 (talk) 21:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  How embarrassing. My apologies. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC) Shucks. US$130,000 and you don't even get golden rain.

• Post-posting comment the New York, USA part is redundant as it already said he was the POTUS. Just say New York.

Jbvann05 21:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Post-posting support this has made front-page headlines on multiple news sites. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 21:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I'd just be very amused if we don't put this on the front page for a day or so, and let "Kolkata Knight Riders defeat Sunrisers Hyderabad" stay at the top for a while. What are the odds Sunil Narine would ever be on the front page again? DS (talk) 22:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment remember that while a likely near majority of us are elated by this news, we still must handle it's writing and application impartially and neutrally, meaning it should not be getting special attention at ITN outside of its posting in the standard ITN process. Masem (t) 22:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Blurb missing "all" Seems that most sources headline that he was guilty on all 34 counts.[3]—Bagumba (talk) 23:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support—Obviously. And I agree with Bagumba that we ought to mention the fact that Trump was convicted on every single count for which he stood trial. Kurtis ^(talk) 23:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support adding "all" per Bagumba. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support for the record. Historically important and being covered worldwide. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment should (question here, not a requirement) be saying that these are falsifying records as part of his 2016 election campaign? For our non-US readers that do not understand why this state-level charge of doing bad business has significant consequences. --Masem (t) 00:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Good idea, assuming it doesn't make the blurb too long. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, we'd need to stay concise Masem (t) 00:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  That seems like a good idea. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 02:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 02:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support Historic and significant. Minimal explanation is needed to elaborate. -TenorTwelve (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Post-posting support per above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Post-posting support for adding "all" as per Bagumba and Chaotic Enby. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment is it typical of ITN to post political court rulings before the appeal phase? 188.26.145.178 (talk) 06:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
  • A jury verdict is actually not considered a "court ruling", but with respect to precedent, we posted in December 2010 immediately following the conviction of former President of Israel Moshe Katsav on rape, obstruction of justice, and like charges. BD2412 T 15:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

    And in nearly all cases where we have posted a conviction, we know appeals will be attempted and all that. If there is a change of the conviction after the fact (and that depends on the situation) we would likely post that. Masem (t) 16:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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May 29

Portal:Current events/2024 May 29

May 29, 2024 (2024-05-29) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, Russia–NATO relations, Ukraine–NATO relations Sweden announces a package of $1.23 billion in military aid to Ukraine, the largest given by Sweden so far. (AP) France and Germany announce that French and German weapons sent to Ukraine, including long-range missiles, are permitted to target bases inside Russia. (CNN) The Polish Defence Ministry says it has given Ukraine permission to use Polish-supplied weapons to strike targets inside Russian territory. (Babel) Israel–Hamas war Rafah offensive Israel says that it has taken full control of the Egypt–Gaza border after capturing the Philadelphi Corridor. (Reuters) (DW) Two Israeli soldiers who were seriously wounded by a vehicle-ramming attack the day before succumb to their injuries. (Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents 2023–2024 Sundhnúkur eruptions The town of Grindavík, Iceland, and the nearby Blue Lagoon are evacuated due to volcanic activity. (BBC News) At least 28 people are killed when a bus falls into a ravine in Washuk District, Balochistan, Pakistan. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment The India Meteorological Department records a record-high temperature of 52.9 °C (127.2 °F) in Delhi, resulting in one death. (CBS News) (Al Jazeera) International relations Brazil–Israel relations Brazil recalls its ambassador to Israel amid an ongoing diplomatic crisis between the two countries. (Reuters) Law and crime Amnesty International says that the number of executions recorded globally in 2023 was the highest since 2015 and up more than 30% from 2022, with Iran carrying out 74% of the global total. The figures exclude China, because execution numbers are considered a state secret. (BBC News) Four people are injured in a mass shooting in Dalston, London, UK. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 Malagasy parliamentary election Citizens of Madagascar vote for members of the National Assembly. (Africanews) 2024 South African general election South Africans vote for members of the National Assembly and provincial legislatures. (The Guardian) 2024 Vanuatuan constitutional referendum Vanuatuans hold the first national constitutional referendum to vote on amendments related to party switching. (Radio Free Asia) Sports 2023–24 UEFA Europa Conference League In association football, Olympiacos win their first UEFA Europa Conference League title after defeating Fiorentina by a score of 1–0 in the final, becoming the first Greek team to win a major European club trophy. (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Larry R. Hicks

Article: Larry R. Hicks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Aizenberg, Tom (May 29, 2024). "Judge Larry R. Hicks, appointed by Bush, dies at 80; flags at half-staff in Nevada". KRNV.
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BD2412 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A very run-of-the-mill example of a modern United States federal judge. BD2412 T 02:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support Fixed up the article a bit, expanded lead. Looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support article look sready. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 17:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Richard Ellis (biologist)

Article: Richard Ellis (biologist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk · give credit) and Scaramouche33 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Obit published 29 May. Thriley (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is a stub and needs ref work.Weak support I feel like the article just barely isn't a stub/covers the bear minimum. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment/Support I have rewritten and expanded the article to make it more acceptable for ITN. Should be good enough now. Scaramouche33 (talk) 16:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support article is in a good shape now. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 17:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Bob Rogers

Article: Bob Rogers (DJ) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Cancerward (talk · give credit), Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Unsourced section and some cn tags. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose some cn tags and Radio career section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Margot Benacerraf

Article: Margot Benacerraf (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El País, Efecto Cocuyo
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Venezuelan film director. Considered one of the most important filmmakers in the country, recipient of a Cannes Award in 1959. NoonIcarus (talk) 14:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose need for additional sourcing. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Comment @PrinceofPunjab: There was only a single cn tag when I checked the articles. Said tag has been fixed now. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Support article meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 12:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date of birth. Stub tag will have to be removed before it can go onto the main page. Schwede66 21:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
  • I have added a citation (reused) for the date of birth. Alexcalamaro (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Stub tag removed. --NoonIcarus (talk) 14:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

    This wikibio currently has only 274 words of prose and could use a sentence or two to make it less stubby and more comfortably in Start class. Perhaps something on her early life and education? It says in the intro that she is of Moroccan Jewish descent, but this needs a mention in the main prose with a REF. I can only confirm that she is of Jewish origin from the El Pais and El Diario REFs, but not the Moroccan part. The intro also mentions that she was "one of the first Latin American filmmakers to ...", which also needs a mention in the main prose with a REF. I could only confirmed which schools she attended from the same REFs and the Cocuyo REF, not the "one of the first" part. Perhaps it says so in another REF? Anyway, listing UCV, Columbia and IDHEC and spelling out the names of these schools, plus dates, etc. should make the wikibio long enough. --PFHLai (talk) 13:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

    The wikibio now has 330 words of prose, after the subject's education is added to the main prose, and is long enough to qualify. Can the intro get fixed up, please? Details mentioned in the intro should be backed up in the main prose with REFs. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 14:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

    • @PFHLai: Thank you so much for the last improvements. I have rewritten the lead to fix the verifiability issues. --NoonIcarus (talk) 14:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

      • Thank you for fixing the intro. Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 16:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

May 28

Portal:Current events/2024 May 28

May 28, 2024 (2024-05-28) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Rafah offensive, Refugee camp airstrikes in the Israel–Hamas war Al-Mawasi refugee camp attack At least 21 people are killed and 64 others are injured in a Israeli attack on a tent camp in al-Mawasi, Rafah Governorate. (Al Jazeera) Israeli tanks reach central Rafah for the first time with heavy clashes being reported. (Reuters) Humanitarian aid during the Israel–Hamas war The U.S. removes the Gaza floating pier from the Gaza Strip for repair after its flotilla was damaged in bad weather. (AP) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign Russian guided bombs hit a block of apartments in Toretsk, Donetsk Oblast, killing at least two civilians and injuring six others. (Reuters) Red Sea crisis A Marshall Islands-flagged bulk carrier takes on water after being hit by three missiles off the coast of Yemen. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Cyclone Remal Seventeen people are killed and six others are missing after a stone quarry collapses due to strong winds in Aizawl, Mizoram, India. (The Hindu) One person is killed and seven others are injured in a natural gas explosion at an apartment building in Youngstown, Ohio, U.S. (AP) International relations International recognition of the State of Palestine Norway–Palestine relations, Ireland–Palestine relations, Palestine–Spain relations The governments of Norway, Ireland, and Spain officially recognise the State of Palestine, after declaring their intention to do so on May 22. (The Journal) (Euronews) (AP) Denmark–Palestine relations The Parliament of Denmark rejects a proposal to recognise a Palestinian state. (Reuters) International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war protests Pro-Palestinian protestors in Mexico set fire to the Israeli embassy in Mexico City. (The Jewish Chronicle) (Proceso) Law and crime Animal rights in Colombia The Senate of Colombia approves a resolution banning Spanish-style bullfighting in the country. (La FM) Bankruptcy of FTX Former FTX co-CEO Ryan Salame is sentenced to more than seven years in prison and fined more than $11 million for fraud and criminal conspiracy. (Reuters) Belarus–European Union border crisis A Polish Border Guard soldier is seriously injured in an incident among a surge in migrants trying to cross the EU border from Belarus. (Polskie Radio) South Africa's genocide case against Israel Mexico announces it will intervene in support of South Africa in South Africa's genocide case against Israel. (Middle East Eye) Politics and elections 2023–2024 Georgian protests The Georgian parliament overrides a presidential veto of the foreign agents law, thereby requiring president Salome Zourabichvili to endorse the bill within five days. (DW) 2024 Taiwanese legislative reform protests The Kuomintang and Taiwan People's Party pass amendments granting the Legislative Yuan greater powers to oversee the executive and to question officials and citizens, despite claims that these amendments violate civil liberties and could reduce the powers of president Lai Ching-te of the Democratic Progressive Party. (The Guardian) Haitian crisis Garry Conille is named the new Prime Minister of Haiti by the Transitional Presidential Council. (AP)

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Recognition of Palestine by Ireland, Norway and Spain

Article: International recognition of the State of Palestine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The governments of Norway, Ireland, and Spain recognise the State of Palestine as a sovereign state. In response, Israel recalls several of its ambassadors to these countries. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Mika1h (talk · give credit)

The previous nomination (from May 22) was closed because the event hadn't happened yet. Mika1h (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support Sufficient update in terms of the added table parameters and details on diplomatic foreign relations with Ireland. Decent article that is maintained. Kingsif (talk) 21:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, although only the table has been updated and I would like to see prose about it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support Relevant table has been updated. The article does not include individual prose for each country that recognizes Palestine - the updates to the article seem sufficient Schwinnspeed (talk) 23:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Support Even though this is covered by ongoing, it is notable enough to merit its own blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose They’re neither the first EU/NATO states (most of Eastern Europe) nor the first “western” states (Sweden, Iceland) to do so, and none of them (except debatably Spain) are major regional/international powers in the same way as the USA, Germany, or France (whose recognition I probably will support when it happens). I don’t really see how this is especially notable as a result, beyond the context of the war, at which point it becomes a question of whether it overrrides the ongoing item, and (perhaps somewhat circularly of me) for the reasons previously stated I don’t really think it does. The Kip ^(contribs) 00:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good enough, plus given the current climate surrounding Palestine/Israel conflict, this does have some more 'heft' to it. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per The Kip. I get the point that this was done by three countries at once in response to Israel's mishandling of the war against Hamas, but countries recognise the State of Palestine all the time in support of the two-state solution (for instance, Barbados, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, and The Bahamas have very recently done it). A total of 145 out of 193 UN member states have recognised the State of Palestine, and these are no firsts in any category.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  Slovenia’s also in the process of recognition as of today. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support as before and a certain step towards two-state solution. Brandmeister^talk 07:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  Really? Out of all the countries that recognise the State of Palestine these three are the 'certain step towards a two-state solution'? Traumnovelle (talk) 08:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  In my humble opinion, even if lasting peace is light years away. Others may disagree. Brandmeister^talk 08:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose – I'm not seeing any prose update describing this event. Significance is not made clear in the article; how are governments responding to this? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose No significant update – just some entries in a long table. Also, as this seems to be mainly a political gesture rather than having some significant effect on the ground, I reckon it's just one of many daily events covered by our Ongoing entry for the war. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, if there's not actual prose added describing the event, how is it considered significant enough to be ITN? It's a big deal but we already feature the Israel-Hamas War on the page and I don't see this as a significant change to the status quo, and if it is I have not seen adequate justification for that. Lunsel (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support A significant unified front taking a notable step towards the recognition of Palestine. It is notable especially because the holdouts have been from “the west” and these countries are from “the west.” Admittedly, it was only 3. But this does create momentum for Palestinian statehood even if it will be years or decades.-TenorTwelve (talk) 02:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  They’re not the first western states to do so, though - Sweden and Iceland beat them to that punch years ago. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Soon to be 4, with Slovenia, which can be taken as more evidence of momentum. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 09:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per The Kip, they are not the first western countries to recognize the Palestinian Statehood. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose I know last time this came up, I opposed on CRYSTAL. But I still am not convinced its major enough to justify being in ITN as above states, other countries already did this before and I think its generally already covered by the ongoing conflict coverage. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 09:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support on principle, oppose on lack of update. We can't post every country that recognises Palestine, and there isn't a clear 'first' in this case. Nevertheless it has garnered a lot more media attention than almost every other recognition in that table. So in principle I think this is postable. However Andrew Davidson is right - there's no prose update in the article, only table entries. We need at least a paragraph of referenced prose about these developments. Modest Genius ^talk 12:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. We can’t just put stuff for ITN just because a country recognized another country. 48JCL^TALK 16:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

2024 Georgian protests

Article: 2023–2024 Georgian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Georgian parliament led by the Georgian Dream party votes on overturning the presidential veto of a controversial Russian-modelled proposed "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence" amidst large-scale protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Georgian parliament led by the Georgian Dream party overturns the presidential veto of the controversial Russian-modelled "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence" despite large-scale protests
News source(s): The Guardian (live coverage)
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Article really needs an overhaul, may have to wait until vote is over. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Support has been preceded by notable protests, fits ITNR Ion.want.uu (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, but the protest article needs just a few more fixes (four {{cn}} paragraphs in the Russia and US reaction sections, some proseline issues). For people using cite highlighters like me, note that some sources show up as unreliable even though they might not be, as the Facebook share link of the sources got archived instead for some reason. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for multiple reasons. Firstly, this is domestic politics with no major international impact. Secondly, if there were mass-scale protests and people really condemn the bill, they could vote against the ruling political parties on the parliamentary election later this year to change the political climate. That’s how it works in a democratic country, which Georgia pretends to be. Thirdly, the wording of the blurb with “controversial Russian-modelled” is very confusing (Did Russian officials participate in the proposal?) and not neutral. Fourthly, posting this implies that we should consider posting the potential repeal of the law in the near future if the composition of the parliament changes, which would be too much navel-gazing on a topic within a single country. In general, we don’t post such events. Protests always have the potential to merit inclusion in case they escalate, but this is still not it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  Please reread WP:ITNCDONT.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 23:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  It quite clearly means it's modelled on a Russian law, not that Russians had any direct involvement. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Vanilla Wizard: Even if it's modelled on a Russian law, this is an event with a minor impact in global politics, and "controversial" isn't a word that should be included in a blurb. Wikipedia should remain impartial. There are hundreds of similar laws around the globe which push countries closer to Russia, China, the United States or any other global player. I also don't see how my argumentation violates WP:ITNCDONT.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  If people are protesting the law it is evidently controversial... Traumnovelle (talk) 06:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  Those people can punish the governing parties on the parliamentary election later this year. That’s how democracy works. The protests have potential for posting if they turn violent with casualties or end up in a change of government, and the law itself has potential if international sanctions are imposed against the Georgian government, but the events have clearly not reached that state yet. A milder way to oppose this would be to wait how things develop in the coming days. Otherwise, a law on NGOs resulting in mass-scale protests is very much a run-of-the-mill event, especially in times when we have major ongoing armed conflicts.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  It has major international impact in light of EU enlargement and the threat of Russian aggression. This law has put Georgia away from the EU membership they have been striving for until now and back into the arms of Russia, who still occupy 1/3 of the country. The fact that several heads of state as well as international organisation have widely commented on this repeatedly reflects this. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  Georgia's accession to the EU would increase its population by 0.83 per cent, area by 1.65 per cent, GDP by 0.18 per cent, and would reduce its GDP per capita by 0.65 per cent. That's all but definitely not a major impact. Furthermore, it won't happen in foreseeable future given that there have been candidate countries for more than 20 years now. Also, if you take a look at the opinion polls on this year's parliamentary election, it doesn't seem likely that the ruling party will lose and the government will change. So, it literally boils down to whether these protests can overturn the government and/or something big happens in the country's international relations (e.g. imposing of international sanctions). As it stands, there are no signs for that happening other than diplomatic notes, but we can wait to see how the story unfolds further.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  It's the closest transcontinental country to EU membership, polling in Georgia has EU accession at 80% support levels consistently. The protests have been huge given the relatively small population, consistent, long-term and widespread; the 2023 protests were successful at the time; this time time will tell but inclusion on ITN is not solely based its success rate. Every major news outlet in most countries has covered this, which is rare given it's a small far-flung state for most, nearly all top politicians in the EU, Russia and US have commented or are monitoring the developments. I think given Russia's increasing influence Georgia is seem as a litmus test for many, so it is hugely important geo-politically. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  I'm still not entirely sure what kind of protests are considered notable enough for inclusion on ITN. Does it have to have a death toll? Does it have to lead to regime change? Obviously, we can't predict the latter, so it remains vague Scaramouche33 (talk) 12:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  I was pinged, but I'll only make this one reply as it seems this back-and-forth is long enough already. Re: "I also don't see how my argumentation violates WP:ITNCDONT" Because your first and foremost argument against posting was that you believe this story only affects one country and has no international impact. WP:ITNCDONT clearly outlines this is not an acceptable reason to oppose. "Please do not... Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive." I was going to argue against the idea that there's "no international impact" to what's going on in Georgia right now when the geopolitical implications seem fairly obvious, but doing so would be besides the point. Even if I agreed that this story is only related to Georgia alone, that's not a valid reason to oppose it. That is why I asked that you reread WP:ITNCDONT.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 18:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  You’re clearly overreacting here and hanging on to my argument on the limited impact of this event. Please read my other arguments and the whole discussion before rules-lawyering. In general, we don’t post protests, unless they turn violent or result in major changes. Furthermore, the Georgian government began normalising the relations with Russia when they lifted the sanctins and re-introduced air travel between the two countries last year. This law is relatively insignificant compared to what was happening over the past year, but people get deluded that this is a break-even point because of the protests (there are always protests when authorities clamp down on the NGO sector, but that doesn’t imply any greater significance).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  just cos we haven’t done it before doesn’t mean we don’t do it now Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support It's notable enough, especially with the EU and USA reaction. Should the bill pass, which it looks like GD will do everything in their power to do so, then that effectively scuttles any and all chances of Georgia approaching the west or having friendly relations with the EU, which has stated this will kill their EU membership bid, and the US said if it passes it will warrant sanctions on Georgian leadership. Scu ba (talk) 05:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The article is pretty hard to read, grammatically, narratively and organizationally. Longer than it has to be, too. I don't think many people going in without a prior understanding of the plot are going to leave with one, either, just "plenty of snippets" and disjointed parablocks (chunky pseudographs). InedibleHulk (talk) 09:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article is a mess, and the update given by the blurb is a whole two sentences. The bill itself likely needs to be its own thing from the protests, and that's going to be a lot of work. --Masem (t) 12:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose on quality and it's just a domestic thing, not really ITN worthy (maybe good for ongoing though for the protests?) Sharrdx (talk) 13:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing means there would be several blurb-worthy (or close to blurb-worthy) updates, so that's an even higher bar to clear. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability, oppose on quality Very much in the news, I feel like I've been seeing an endless stream of new articles about it even though Georgia isn't exactly a country I'd expect to see nonstop news about. It definitely has major geopolitical implications, but I'd also like to remind some editors that it also doesn't need to in order to be notable enough for ITN. As for quality: the page isn't unsalvageable, but it definitely needs some work. It doesn't take a lot of skimming to find some confusingly written sentences that were probably translated very roughly from Georgian. I'd say most of the article is okay (or at least intelligible) but I'd like to see some improvements made before posting.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 18:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as the article needs work for readability. Support on notability, but oppose current blurb - IMO the protests should be the focus, not the law itself. The Kip ^(contribs) 01:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 03:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) People's Majlis

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: People's Majlis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Members of the 20th Parliament of the Maldives take oath of office and Abdul Raheem Abdulla elected speaker (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Members of the 20th Parliament of the Maldives take oath of office and Abdul Raheem Abdulla, Special Advisor to the President elected speaker
News source(s): Edition, Sun, Sun, Avas, Majlis, Adhadhu
Credits:

• Nominated by MAL MALDIVE (talk · give credit)

The parliament with most members in the Maldivian history with an amount of 93 and People's National Congress has a super majority with 75 members making an history. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 08:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• This is not an ITNR, the election was last month. The inauguration or taking of the oath of office is rarely considered significant enough for a blurb if the election was already reported. --Masem (t) 11:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. Estreyeria (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Masem. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 19:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. Sadly, looking in the archives for April, we missed the election itself. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose On technical grounds, the article nominated isn't even included in the proposed blurbs. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  It's the first link. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Even so, the oppose still stands as there are too many uncited sections anyway. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

May 27

Portal:Current events/2024 May 27

May 27, 2024 (2024-05-27) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War Prime Minister of Spain Pedro Sánchez signs a bilateral security pact with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and pledges €1 billion (US$1.1 billion) of military aid to Ukraine. (Al Jazeera) Russia captures the villages of Netailove in Donetsk Oblast and Ivanivka in Kharkiv Oblast. (Arab News) Israel–Hamas War Rafah offensive An Egyptian border guard is killed in a shootout at the Rafah Border Crossing. (Reuters) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Twenty-three gunmen and seven soldiers are killed during three shootouts in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (AP) Red Sea crisis Yemen's Houthi militia says that they attacked three merchant ships and two destroyers from the United States Navy. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Enga landslide Papua New Guinea asks for international help following the landslide in Enga Province three days ago, and reports that more than 2,000 people were buried alive and are now presumed deceased. (AP) Tornado outbreak sequence of May 19–26, 2024 The death toll from a tornado outbreak in the U.S. states of Texas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and Arkansas on Saturday and Sunday increases to 21. (Reuters) Law and crime A teenager is killed and six other people are injured in a shooting in downtown Lansing, Michigan, United States. (USA Today)

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(Posted) RD: Alan Choe

Article: Alan Choe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Straits Times (Singapore)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Singaporean architect and urban planner. Ktin (talk) 20:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Support there are no apparent issues wit the article. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 02:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Elizabeth MacRae

Article: Elizabeth MacRae (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E4DF:C268:98B6:EDE2 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:E4DF:C268:98B6:EDE2 (talk) 02:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose The article's body isn't bad in terms of sourcing, just one cn tag overall. However the filmography section is unsourced and needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• No {cn} tags remaining, but the Filmography section has remained unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bette Nash

Article: Bette Nash (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
• Created by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Highresheadphones (talk · give credit) and JLo-Watson (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

World's longest serving flight attendent. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support Short but apparently well-cited. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support hesitantly. It's a start-class, not a stub, so it's presentable on the main page. Bremps... 02:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support Going for Great. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article could be longer, but looks good enough for posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support for the same reason as Bremps. Highresheadphones (talk) 16:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support Stephen 01:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bill Walton

Article: Bill Walton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support Awards section lacks inline citation, but most of it is cited in the prose. GreatCaesarsGhost 19:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support updated and sourced some things. I do see two citation needed tags, but they are likely sourced within the next sentence. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 23:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support_pbp 00:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Impressed with this article & its excellent and thorough sourcing. But I agree that the Awards section lacks inline citations at this point (as GreatCaesarsGhost mentions above), but as soon as this section is corroborated it should be Ready to post. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 00:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  I added inline citations. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you, good work. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 03:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support Sufficient sourcing and quality.—Bagumba (talk) 03:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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